[Laughter] But theres literally a text variant there. So if you were to translate Azazel as the goat that goes away, then the other one becomes the goat that is who he is and makes things come into being. [Laughter] Like, it doesnt, Fr. So Greek words in the New Testament are treated as these sort of independent entities without reference to what theyre translating, and then that allows you to pack a whole bunch of things in. He wants them to repent of those sins and to be purified by his coming. Fr. But no Christian disputes that the theology of the apostles is the standard for Christian orthodoxy, so saying the apostles were orthodox in a general sense is not a very punchy claim since this is true tautologically. When the book of Enoch lists what the different rebellious angelic beings taught to humans, what Azazel is listed as having taught are the same things that Tubal-cain in Genesis 4:2 because if theres anything people love more than Slavonic pseudepigrapha, its genealogies. Is he just saying, Im going to come into this. Well, okay, lets talk about St. Matthew. Well see more of that as we go on, but to reiterate here that this is not, in its biblical usage, any kind of specialized technical theological term. Thats what he named himself, and he actually went into the Temple in Jerusalem and sacrificed pigs on the altar to Zeus. Rabbinic Judaism was invented specifically in reaction to Christianity, and involved systematically expunging aspects of their theological pedigree that overlapped with the Christian faith. Fr. So, Fr. I mean, were doing daily offerings for sin in ancient Israel. Theyre not just saying and this is what happened next! [Laughter] But when hands were laid in sacrificial rituals Its the goat for Azazel where it says he lays hands on it and then pronounces the sins. Fr. This goat, we dont know nothing. Stephen: Let me add a couple of other things. What can I say? The Bible provides us with some similes pertaining to height. Andrew: All right. 9781944967550. by Stephen De Young. Its amazing. And then goats get associated with the Day of Atonement, which means theyre associated with sin, blood, death, Azazel. The Bible in a Year (with Fr. Orthodoxy, The Early Church, and Second Temple Judaism (w/ Fr. Stephen Andrew: And freedom being given by Christ from that. Stephen: And, briefly, since you brought up the next few episodes about geography, I know Maps is going to end up on the playlist, so lets make sure its the Yeah Yeah Yeahs and not Maroon 5. Five-ish Angelic Falls and Three Human Falls - Copious Flowers Well, okay, so theres a little bit of backstory here, and again, Luke, using this detail about Christ being on the road to Emmaushes actually on the road to Emmaus, but everyone knows what Emmaus is famous for. Fr. Andrew: Yeah, right! So thats what this is about. Wright (Protestant) and Brant Pitre (Catholic) and others should give the Orthodox pause before too quickly assuming these types of historical considerations automatically vindicate the claims of Eastern Orthodox ecclesiology. Fr. The idea Theres a presupposition there that its somehow mechanical, that God saving us is like an elaborate Rube Goldberg machine in an OK Go video or something, where he puts things in motion and at the end somebody gets saved. For those of us in the Byzantine rite of the Orthodox Church, which is most Orthodox Christians, this last Sunday was the Sunday of the Last Judgment, in which we heard Matthew 25, where we heard that sheep go to heaven and goats go to hell. But the problemand we already talked about this a bit with Fr.